Lots of dead bodies show up in this episode. Be prepared to cover your eyes while listening, unless you happen to be operating heavy machinery or driving. If that’s the case, you should probably keep your eyes open.
The episode begins with the corpses of three executed anarchists in iron cages. After that, a pile of plagued cadavers are catapulted over city walls. Then, we talk to a cold-case homicide detective.
Here’s the topic that your intrepid cohosts tackle with world-renowned cold-case homicide detective J. Warner Wallace: What if all the Bibles in the world suddenly went missing at the same time?
We’re not just talking about that one time when you left your favorite copy of the Holy Scriptures on top of the car. What we’re considering is what we could know about God if every single copy of the Bible went fluttering away, never to be seen again. If that happened, surely all of our knowledge about Jesus would be gone as well, right?
Not so fast, says J. Warner Wallace
According to Detective Wallace, the impact of Jesus on the world has been so great that, even without any Bibles, we could still reconstruct enough truth to know Jesus and to follow him. And that’s what he discusses with Timothy Paul Jones on this episode—but that’s not all that they talk about!
Every episode of The Apologetics Podcast is contractually required to include some serious rock and roll, and this episode is no exception. Timothy is thrilled beyond words as Detective Wallace reaffirms his love for the guitar wizardry of Neal Schon of Journey and geeks out on some of his favorite guitars.
And what happens in the moment of madness known as “Indiana, Jones, and the Raiders of Church History”?
You guessed it.
Dead bodies.
That’s when Garrick and Timothy descend into the depths of the macabre as they pit iron cages against the bubonic plague with devastating results.
Also, “Bübönïc” would be an amazing name for a heavy metal band.
Before it’s over, Timothy hurls a plagued corpse at Garrick, and Garrick is forced to reveal the never-before-considered-and-probably-totally-wrong hidden meaning behind the Soundgarden song “Rusty Cage,” which turns out to have something to do with the execution of Anabaptist anarchists in Münster.
And, by “Münster,” we mean the city, not the cheese.
ABOUT YOUR GUEST AND HOSTS
J. Warner Wallace is a cold-case homicide detective, popular national speaker, and best-selling author. He continues to consult on cold-case investigations while serving as a Senior Fellow at the Colson Center for Christian Worldview. He is also an adjunct professor of apologetics at Talbot School of Theology (Biola University) and Southern Evangelical Seminary, and is a faculty member at Summit Ministries. You can find out more about J. Warner Wallace at https://coldcasechristianity.com/.
Timothy Paul Jones, Ph.D., is C. Edwin Gheens Professor of Christian Ministry at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He teaches in the areas of family ministry and applied apologetics. He has authored or edited more than a dozen books, including Why Should I Trust the Bible?, The God Who Goes Before You, Perspectives on Family Ministry, and Christian History Made Easy. Follow Dr. Jones at @DrTimothyPJones.
Garrick Bailey is a Ph.D. student in systematic theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, studying Herman Bavinck and Roman Catholicism under the supervision of Gregg Allison. Follow Garrick at @GarrickBailey.
LINKS TO CLICK
Person of Interest (book by J. Warner Wallace)
Surprised by Joy (book by C. S. Lewis)
CLOSING CREDITS
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